| Neki hibrid vjerojatno? |
| da, plava ti jest socolofi, žuta je labidocromis caeruleus, skroz ljevo je nekakva red zebra ili maylandia estherae, a ova smeđa grda u sredini mi se čini ko hybrid caeruleusa (electric yellow) i ´ko zna čega... |
| Možda hibrid Red Zebre i Electric Yellow ?! Mislim da je moguće između par varijanti (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2) |
Slažem se za socolofi i caerulleus, a za ostale ne znam1
Imaš jako dobru podlogu, baš kakva treba biti, sivkasta... još bolje bi bilo da je sivi pijesak, ali šta je tu je...-odlično je(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6)
Kamenje je isto adekvatno, tamno, prirodnih oblika...
Imaju li caerulleus i socolofi društvo?
Ma ono nije hibrid,ipak se i u akvariji razlićite vrste ne mrijeste medjusobno.
Ma daj ti malo opiši tu nepoznatu M'bunu
- pod kakvim imenom sije kupio
- ima li lažne ikre na analnoj peraji
- kakvo joj ponašanje u akvariju
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jer pogadati iz same slike ipak jemalo teže,ali uz nekoliko više podataka biće i lakše,pa čemo nekako skupa rešiti tu uganku(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6)
| Sad je još teže reći! Ja mislim da je hybrid i budi ponosan vlasnik(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2) |
| hybrid 100 procentno!!! |
| ili caeruleus na teškim drogama(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2) |
| što bilo da bilo jako je lijepa riba i ako nije agresivna u plusu si do jajec (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2) |
riba sa slike bi mogla biti "Maylandia Sprgerae Msobo Magunga" (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads%2Firusnjak%2FBE5A8_PmsobomagungaF.jpg&hash=e332981e209bcc89157b3cbc4892d0bceacf1fc4) |
ili možda Pseudotropheus johannii ? (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads%2Firusnjak%2FF2D3A_Mjohanni_couple.jpg&hash=af229c7506fa00ab76331ed95308faac6eba3f69) |
ja sam samo izdvojio najsličnije makar se još dvoumim, ali mi je ova gornja Magunga bliža...po svemu sudeći ima specifićan oblik glave i položaj očiju tako da ne odustajem od teorije da je hibrid nastao miješanjem vrsta(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2) P.S. Keep searchin' |
Bojko, pomozi da nađemo o kojoj se ribi doista radi! Mislim da sada ne bi trebali stati usred potrage! P.S. Križanje ciklida je itekako dokazano, nadam se da se ne varam, a postoji i model "crossberring", a to je prijenos vlastitih jajašaca u tuđa gnijezda(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2) |
nije joj baš slična! Ali može bit(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley25.gif&hash=2dfe64fc76307829bdff82a18c81501f4df02031)Promotrite pa prosudite sami(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2) http://www.amateurcichlids.com/fish/i_sprengerae.shtml (http://www.amateurcichlids.com/fish/i_sprengerae.shtml) http://www.cichlidae.com/gallery/Iodotropheus/sprengerae.html (http://www.cichlidae.com/gallery/Iodotropheus/sprengerae.html) |
P.S. Križanje ciklida je itekako dokazano, nadam se da se ne varam, a postoji i model "crossberring", a to je prijenos vlastitih jajašaca u tuđa gnijezda(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2)
| Iodotropheus Sprengerae, yeah right, sličan mu je jedino po boji, a po obliku tijela i zatamnjenju na leđnoj peraji nikada.... bojim se da si falija...(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2) |
Hybrids have been observed in nature among the cichlids of the three African Great Lakes. Putative hybrids were discovered in Lake Victoria, where species-specific mating was compromised by reduction in water clarity (Seehausen etal. 1997 (http://javascript popup'citart1','b6','10.1046/j.1365-294X.2003.01905.x','bj1365294X200301905x',''); Verschuren etal. 2002 (http://javascript popup'citart1','b28','10.1046/j.1365-294X.2003.01905.x','bj1365294X200301905x','')). In Lake Tanganyika, introgression is believed to have occurred upon secondary contact between a pair of currently sympatric species (Ruber etal. 2001 (http://javascript popup'citart1','b21','10.1046/j.1365-294X.2003.01905.x','bj1365294X200301905x','')), and a separate Lake Tanganyika hybridization event resulted in speciation (Salzburger etal. 2002 (http://javascript popup'citart1','b29','10.1046/j.1365-294X.2003.01905.x','bj1365294X200301905x','')). In Lake Malawi, some specimens of intergeneric hybrids have been discovered at one translocation site (Stauffer etal. 1996 (http://javascript popup'citart1','b30','10.1046/j.1365-294X.2003.01905.x','bj1365294X200301905x','')), and hybridization was postulated for translocated populations of Pseudotropheus callainos (Stauffer & Hert 1992 (http://javascript popup'citart1','b31','10.1046/j.1365-294X.2003.01905.x','bj1365294X200301905x','')). Greater understanding of the potential for natural hybridization, especially in undisturbed settings, is important to evaluating the role of hybridization as an evolutionary mechanism in African cichlids. E pa bojim se da se itekako križaju i to ne samo u akvarijima nego i u prirodi....ako još uvijek ima nevjernih Toma neka malo prouče slijedeće: http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi/10.1046/j.1365-294X.2003.01905.x/full/ (http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi/10.1046/j.1365-294X.2003.01905.x/full/) BTW ,u pitanju je znanstveni pristup ,a ne neka naša naklapanja....... |
| sorry, ali nije išlo tebe ovo o crossbreeding-u, nego gospodina koji tvrde da se ciklidi ne križaju i da se nikada nisu križali, a Iodotropheus Sprengerae izgleda malo drugačije od one ribice gore, ima punije tijelo i manje zašiljenu glavu, ali dobro, vjerujem da ih nisam sve vidio jer, kako si rekao ima ih gro podvrsta... |