Akvarij NET - FORUM
Slatkovodna Akvaristika => Biljke i alge => Autor teme: vladomir - Travanj 20, 2011, 13:05:22 poslijepodne
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Akvarij od 30 lit mi je u pogonu već 7 mjeseci i od samoga početka na listovima anubijasa se stvaraju neke naslage koje su u početku svijetlije boje a kasnije potamne kao što se vidi na slikama. Na dodir podsječa na brusni papir koji sa neda skinuti sa lista. Na prvi pogled nešto poput kamenca. Ta je pojava prisutna uglavnom na svim spororastučim biljkama. U podlozi imam vulkanit pomješan sa malo JBL-ove podloge u sloju od oko cm. Na podlozi je položen kremeni pijesak 2 do 3 mm u sloju od 4-5 cm debljine. Svakih sedam dana mijenjam 30 % vode.
Neznam šta je to i na koji način se toga riješiti.
:a045k:
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alge i to više vrsta definitivno!
kako riješiti?? hm... ima dosta napisano tu na forumu o tome..
za pocetak odgovori na ovo!
koliko svjetla imas, koliki ti je period svjetla, koji filter je unutra, dali gnojis bilje, imas li co2???
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Imam slicnih problema u akvariju slicne zapremine.
U mom slucaju, zakljucio sam da se radi o previse svjetla, previse hrane, slaboj cirkulaciji i manjku CO2 (iz boce mi nema smisla dodavat u tak mali akvarij, a EC-om jako tesko pogoditi pravi omjer a da ne naskodi npr. kozicama).
Kako god, ja sam se s vremenom pomirio sa stanjem i iako je malo ruznjikavo na oko, mikrorasborke uzivaju u njemu i tijekom zimskih mjeseci se non-stop mrijeste (vec drugu zimu za redom).
Sad cu, za kojih mjesec dana, kad se razborkice primire s reprodukcijom, napraviti malo vece ciscenje za kojega povadim bilje (anubiase) van i dobro ih operem pod vodovodnom vodom....i isto to ponovim krajem jeseni.
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ja bih rekao da to zbilja jest kamenac. ako je voda tvrda a bilje nema dosta CO2 na listove se taloži kamenac.
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i malo previse hrane ima uticaj... :nerd:
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Svjetlo je 18 w osam sati na dan, filter Atman HF 100,EC sam dodavao do prije dva mjeseca. Biljkama očito nije pasalo biti bez EC pa sam ga ponovo počeo dodavati i to 1,5 ml dnevno. Galaksice se normalno mrijeste a isto tako i kozice. Kod mene potvrđeno da ova količina EC ne škodi kozicama (Red cherry)
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2. Stable carbonate hardness
If an aquarium suffers from CO2 deficiency, the following sequence will occur: - Carbon is chemically bound in the carbonates. Now the plants need this carbon, since a different source is not available. In this process, so-called biogene decalcification, carbonates are destroyed. As a consequence the carbonate hardness drops to dangerously low values and the pH-value becomes extremely unstable, however, with sufficient CO2 supply the plants utilize the carbon contained in the carbon dioxide.
Biogenic decalcification
When there is a carbon dioxide deficiencey in the water, plants can derive CO2 from the hardening constituents of the carbonate hardness. First they split the hydrogen carbonates into CO2 and carbonates. This causes the pH to rise about one step and the largely insoluable carbonates precipitate and form rough deposits on the leaves and substrate. Some plants such as Vallisneria can even destroy the carbonates and obtain CO2 from them. This raises the pH again by another step. Biogenic decalcification thus causes the water to be 10 to 100 times more alkaline than it was previous. In the dark, the process reverses and the pH drops considerably. Thus these continous large pH swings can pose a significant risk to the well being of fish and animals. The solution is to add enough CO2 to the water and have a significant carbonate level to act as a buffer.
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2. Stable carbonate hardness
If an aquarium suffers from CO2 deficiency, the following sequence will occur: - Carbon is chemically bound in the carbonates. Now the plants need this carbon, since a different source is not available. In this process, so-called biogene decalcification, carbonates are destroyed. As a consequence the carbonate hardness drops to dangerously low values and the pH-value becomes extremely unstable, however, with sufficient CO2 supply the plants utilize the carbon contained in the carbon dioxide.
Biogenic decalcification
When there is a carbon dioxide deficiencey in the water, plants can derive CO2 from the hardening constituents of the carbonate hardness. First they split the hydrogen carbonates into CO2 and carbonates. This causes the pH to rise about one step and the largely insoluable carbonates precipitate and form rough deposits on the leaves and substrate. Some plants such as Vallisneria can even destroy the carbonates and obtain CO2 from them. This raises the pH again by another step. Biogenic decalcification thus causes the water to be 10 to 100 times more alkaline than it was previous. In the dark, the process reverses and the pH drops considerably. Thus these continous large pH swings can pose a significant risk to the well being of fish and animals. The solution is to add enough CO2 to the water and have a significant carbonate level to act as a buffer.
:punch: sta rece i osta ziv
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2. Stable carbonate hardness
If an aquarium suffers from CO2 deficiency, the following sequence will occur: - Carbon is chemically bound in the carbonates. Now the plants need this carbon, since a different source is not available. In this process, so-called biogene decalcification, carbonates are destroyed. As a consequence the carbonate hardness drops to dangerously low values and the pH-value becomes extremely unstable, however, with sufficient CO2 supply the plants utilize the carbon contained in the carbon dioxide.
Biogenic decalcification
When there is a carbon dioxide deficiencey in the water, plants can derive CO2 from the hardening constituents of the carbonate hardness. First they split the hydrogen carbonates into CO2 and carbonates. This causes the pH to rise about one step and the largely insoluable carbonates precipitate and form rough deposits on the leaves and substrate. Some plants such as Vallisneria can even destroy the carbonates and obtain CO2 from them. This raises the pH again by another step. Biogenic decalcification thus causes the water to be 10 to 100 times more alkaline than it was previous. In the dark, the process reverses and the pH drops considerably. Thus these continous large pH swings can pose a significant risk to the well being of fish and animals. The solution is to add enough CO2 to the water and have a significant carbonate level to act as a buffer.
potpisujem!
Biogena dekalcifikacija.
Dodavanje easy carba ili co2 bi trebalo to riješit
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:punch: sta rece i osta ziv
Ovo su sve primjeri biogene dekalcifikacije pa mi reci da li slice na vladomirov problem
(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.izipik.com%2Fimages%2F20081002%2Fiwmpjjmgs6rzja69sz-P1030856-2.JPG&hash=37019fbe6e4834153aa4e55b5ba9ba2316d7d27c)
(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquabase.org%2Fmember%2Falbum%2Fpictures%2F62449D9051F00F488BA255DD8FC30450_full.jpg&hash=cd1c30ea4f4090d674e16d051661a5f348922862)
(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dennerle.eu%2Ffr%2Fimages%2Fstories%2Fbiogeneentkalkung.jpg&hash=b005e34c8e71945f1fb114ebdd799bc90a89f303)
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Svakodnevno dodajem EC po 1,5 ml na 30 lit vode, tjedno zamjenjujem po 10 lit. vode i opet isto.
:a045k:
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Svakodnevno dodajem EC po 1,5 ml na 30 lit vode, tjedno zamjenjujem po 10 lit. vode i opet isto.
:a045k:
Koliko dugo dodajes EC? Jednom kad se te naslage na listu stvore , ne mogu samo tako nestati. Probaj promatrati mlade listove da li isto dobivaju te naslage
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Več nakon dva do tri tjedna naslage su vidljive na mladim listovima anubijasa. EC dodajem svakodnevno več nekih šest do sedam mjeseci sa jednom pauzom od mjesec dana. Do sada jedini način uklanjanja naslaga je bio taj da odrežem list.
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Jesi razmisljao da probas diy co2, jer ne znam koliko je EC dobra zamjena za pravi co2