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Naslov: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: ziza84 - Svibanj 24, 2008, 21:11:49 poslijepodne
proucio sam vecinu postova na forumu i samo da utvrdim znanje

izrezbario sam stiropornu pozadinu onako kako san planira i sad je mislim premazat fugir masom (epoksidnu smolu nisam zelio koristiti). Znaci 4,5 slojeva kistom nanijet smjesu (fugir masa i voda)i onda iza toga posprejat malo akrilnim sprejevima...
Jel ce sljakat to? Necu stavljat nikakve dodatne zastite na fugir masu nego samo tu akrilnu boju, niti cu premazat stiropor sa necim da se bolje primi fugir masa... pretpostavljam da ce se i bez dovoljno dobro primit

jel moze ovako?
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine fugir masom
Autor: profi23 - Svibanj 24, 2008, 21:28:41 poslijepodne
Ne treba ti fugir masa ako ti je stiropor OK.
SAmo sa sprejem prešpricaj.
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine fugir masom
Autor: vedranVŽ - Svibanj 24, 2008, 21:52:34 poslijepodne
ja sam premazao samo fugir masom 6-7 slojeva i odlično mi je ispalo!
pa ako imaš volje... :up: :up:
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine fugir masom
Autor: Drazen79 - Svibanj 24, 2008, 22:33:43 poslijepodne
Ja sam preljepio ljepilom za fasade i obojao akrilnom za beton! Ispalo je dobro i tvrdo!

Jedna faza izrade!
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine fugir masom
Autor: ziza84 - Svibanj 25, 2008, 19:01:05 poslijepodne
Ne treba ti fugir masa ako ti je stiropor OK.
SAmo sa sprejem prešpricaj.

proba san samo sa sprejem na stiropor i izilo ga je!
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine fugir masom
Autor: ziza84 - Svibanj 29, 2008, 11:59:44 prijepodne
odusta san od fugir mase

iden na opciju Simpra fasadna impregnacija na bazi vodene emluzije polimernih veziva (12 kn) i aqualux lak (50 kuna)

sve je na vodenoj bazi i pise da nije toksicno

ako neko ima neki razlog da to nestavljam (direktno na stiropor) neka mi kaze :)

pozz
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine fugir masom
Autor: coka88 - Svibanj 29, 2008, 22:37:59 poslijepodne
Može neka slika da vidimo kako to izgleda?Ideja zvući dobro,ali nemam iskustva s pozadinama,pa ne znam da li je ta kemija sigurna.
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine fugir masom
Autor: ziza84 - Svibanj 30, 2008, 12:11:39 poslijepodne
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Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine fugir masom
Autor: ziza84 - Svibanj 30, 2008, 13:36:21 poslijepodne
posluzila je ona strcaljka kada sam razrijedia boju sa vodom, nerazrijedjena je pregusta pa nece da strca

strcaljka 7 kuna u peveca:)




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Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: ziza84 - Svibanj 30, 2008, 15:57:23 poslijepodne
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Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: t_derek - Svibanj 30, 2008, 16:08:28 poslijepodne
Kaj će to tak crno izgledat?
Jedva čekam vidim pozadinu u vodi  :)
Inače  :klap:
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: ziza84 - Svibanj 30, 2008, 18:38:57 poslijepodne
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Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: Vele bit - Svibanj 30, 2008, 18:46:52 poslijepodne
 :klap: Nice one! like it! A sad slike u vodici
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: vedranVŽ - Svibanj 30, 2008, 19:33:16 poslijepodne
 :klap: :klap: :klap: :klap: :klap:
ne izgleda prebedasto..
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: ziza84 - Svibanj 31, 2008, 16:48:46 poslijepodne
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Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: klippan - Lipanj 03, 2008, 23:24:37 poslijepodne
Čuj, ovo izgleda odlično.  :up:
Ajde još jednom opiši proceduru i materijale koje si koristio, onako u koracima (1,2,3).

Ovo na kraju si na crnu dodavao sivi ton?



Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: ziza84 - Lipanj 04, 2008, 18:03:19 poslijepodne
Materijal: stiropor 5cm meki, ceresit silikon sa slikom ribica na njemu - nije otrovan, SIMPRA univerzalna fasadna impregnacija, AQUALUX lak 2 kantice crne i 1 kantica bijele svaka po 50 kuna, strcaljke iz peveca po 7 kuna

sve skupa oko 200 kuna

fino se drzi nevidin nikakvih problema jos... islo je prvo 2, 3 ruke prskanja impregnacije (koja je vecinom prosla kroz stiropor al valjda je ostalo nesto na povrsini:)) pa onda 1 ruka samo crne boje malo razrijedjene sa vodom, pa onda jedna ruka sive, pa jedna ruka crne i onda sjencanje sa 4om rukom - sive.
zalipljeno silikonom za staklo u akvariju iz 3 komada i to ti je to...

napravim ti za 100 eura ;)
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: ziza84 - Lipanj 04, 2008, 18:04:52 poslijepodne
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Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: schox - Lipanj 04, 2008, 19:28:47 poslijepodne
Na žalost nisam tvoju temu vidio prije,
khm..dakle,.... spray sa kojim si probao radit je akrilni ali to ne znači da je na vodenoj osnovi. On je dapače brzosušivi akrilni  ( slično auto laku ) aresivni spray. ( akrilni znači da sadrži akrilne smole kao utvrđivač boje, ali otapalo mu je agresivno, dok vodeni lakovi koriste vodu kao otapalo a sadrže iste te akrilne smole kao utvrđivače )   
Iako tvrdim da niti on ( akril lak ) ne može naštetiti vodi i ribi jer kad se stvrdne nema više otapanja i otpuštanja ničega u vodu. No kako je stiropor mekan i vrlo topiv tako da i taj lak nije baš prikladan za njega.

Ovo što si napravio na kraju jest odlična ideja i posao ali ne znam kako če se ponašati dugotrajno u vodi. jer bez obzira što su kod nas vodeni lakovi skuplji od uljenih i drugih, nisu baš kvalitetniji.
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: ziza84 - Lipanj 04, 2008, 22:45:12 poslijepodne
a ja se nadan da ce drzat nije bas de je jeftina boja... 50 kuna kantica
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: schox - Lipanj 04, 2008, 22:49:10 poslijepodne
U toj priči si na žalost platio ekologiju a ne kvalitetu.
Vjeruj mi, ja sam ti guru za boje i lakove  ;D
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: tonček - Lipanj 04, 2008, 22:59:34 poslijepodne
-evo i ja se slažem da super izgleda , ali osobno mislim da bi prirodnije izgledalo da je rađeno sa fugir masom(nebi bilo tak sjajno)
 inače mogu svakom preporučit ovu masu PCI jer svakodnevno radim sa njom(doktor za fugir mase) ;)
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: Maro - Lipanj 05, 2008, 01:42:08 prijepodne
Čudna kombinacija ciklidinog hardvera i neciklidnih riba(ako izuzmemo ove skalare).
Dobar uradak ali mi izbor riba nije tako dobar.
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: ziza84 - Lipanj 05, 2008, 23:44:38 poslijepodne
Čudna kombinacija ciklidinog hardvera i neciklidnih riba(ako izuzmemo ove skalare).
Dobar uradak ali mi izbor riba nije tako dobar.

a jebiga dosadilo mi je bilje a sta cu sa ribama... ja bi rado drza ciklide
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: Vele bit - Lipanj 06, 2008, 16:49:31 poslijepodne
Citat:
a sta cu sa ribama

Pa jel imaš mačku?Ili netko od susjeda?
Šaaaliiim seee! Pokloni ih tu na forumu,stavi na aukciju,il tak nešto!Stijena je ko stvorena za ciklide...
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: TiTech - Lipanj 07, 2008, 02:59:22 prijepodne
a jebiga dosadilo mi je bilje a sta cu sa ribama... ja bi rado drza ciklide

Stavio sam pod aukcije ciklide koji bi te mogli zaintrigirati (vrlo lijepe, nezahtjevne, raritet F1, cijena i vise nego smijesna, a sta je najvaznije za djecicu je) pa baci pogled: 

West Africa https://www.akvarij.net/forum/index.php?topic=21617.0 (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/index.php?topic=21617.0)

Malawi https://www.akvarij.net/forum/index.php?topic=21618.0 (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/index.php?topic=21618.0)
Naslov: Odg: presvlacenje pozadine bojom na bazi vode
Autor: vedranVŽ - Lipanj 07, 2008, 10:42:01 prijepodne
e pozadina je prva liga!! :klap: :klap:
možda je samo malo preskupa!
ali izgleda bombastično! :up: