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Slatkovodna Akvaristika => Uradi sam => Autor teme: dodge - Veljača 17, 2008, 21:12:00 poslijepodne
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Evo odlučija san i ja napraviti pozadinu po svom guštu. Dugo san je planira i nisan se moga odlučit točno s čim i kako bi je radija pa san se nakon iscrpnog pretraživanja foruma di san naša puno korisnih info odlučija za stirodur. (Inače sve pohvale forumu i cilom sajtu) I tako san otiša u šoping i jedva naša 2 ploče i to neke bačene sa strane jer neće niko da ga prodaje na ploče nego u paketima onom velikin!! Fak.n megalomani
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Al nema veze valjat će!!! (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) I tako san se bacija na posa. <prvo san ocrta veličinu bočne stranice na koju ide 70x40 i otkida je (ova letva je poslužila ka ravnalo (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley17.gif&hash=a48081acd7c9ede2e5e65de02c2fa6b11d920ea9) )
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u ovaj akv to sve skupas ide
potom san lijepio komade silikonom ( obični neutral bezkiselinski) da dobijem željenu 3d dubinu poslije.
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U glavi san ima otprilike sliku kakvu pozadinu želim napravit pa san je proba prenit na papir (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
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poznat san po svojoj umjetničkoj žici (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
i ovako to izgleda zaljepljeno
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pustija san da se sve to lipo osuši...
i onda , najteži dio.... sjeckanje !! možete se poslužiti svime šta van dođe pod ruku nožem, skalpelom, čekičem, kuvačon, pilom a i rukan, nogan, zubin (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
dobro san se oznoija moran priznat i sitija san se kako je neko odgovorija nekome na forumu da bi mu skupo naplatija izradu stijene, i slažen se !!! ima tu truda i muke!
ekola:
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nakon PAR SATI to je bilo najbliže onome šta san zamislija i s obzirom na sve bia san i više nego zadovoljan...
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eto to je moja poz u kratkim crtama sada slijedi fugamol, malo ću eksperimentirat sa nijansama, i nadan se da će to na kraju bit lipo za vidit a i upotrebljivo u akvariju, a dotad čekan vaše komentare i mišljenja i prijedloge, raspalite iz svih oružja svaka kritika je dobrodošla (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) Edited by: TiTech
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za sad dobro izgleda
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dobro očekiva san malo žešće kritike (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2)
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Meni je prelipo,evo taman i ja radim svoju prvu stijenu i zanimame jesi li stiroplo lipija ljepilom za stiropol ili samo ovaj silikon koji si navea i jeli dovoljno samo stiroplo premazat fugir masom ili treba jos s necim
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Samo s tim silokonom bitno da je bezkiselinski i nebi treba bit problematičan, a premazat ću samo fugamolom zasad, pročita san da je neko samo s njin maza i da je ok, a čekan prijedloge pa ću još vidit
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meni izgleda odlicno! ali vjerujem da ce jos bolje izgledat kad ju zaronis u akvarij...(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2)
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Jel ces to paliti? Meni su malo preravne te stijene... Ali to je samo moj ukus... (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley9.gif&hash=af1d49ba058db573321027d0d36c4b7d39251301)
Mislim da je netko napisao da se pali i da bi se bolje fugamol primio...
Inace mislim da ce to biti odlicna pozadina...(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley32.gif&hash=a737273b3f7ae906ec6c28ccb4d3e8c312700d78)
Nadam se samo da nece oduzeti previse prostora... (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2)
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Hvala na recenzijama (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
Paljeno je mada se možda ne vidi baš na slici.
Ja san tia da budu tako malo ravnije al su dosta 3d ,
uživo se to puno bolje vidi ....
Šta se prostora tiče.....pa vidit ćemo ...nadam se da neće puno (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6)
e sad evo prva ruka fugamola
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i sutradan druga
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fugamol je dosta popunio manje rupe i brazde i izravna stijenu još više.
Još jedna ruka fugamola, pa malo sjenčenja akrilnim sprejevima.
Mislin je još poslije umiti hipermanganom neznan jeli potrebno ,
ima li ko iskustva?
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evo taman sam se vratia iz shopinga uzea sam silikon "makroflex neutral bezkiselinski otopan na vodu" pa me zanima mogu li s njim ljepit pozadinu za staklo i uzea sam fugir masu otpornu na vodu pa me zanima Dodge jesi li fugirao i onu stranu pozadine koju lijepis na staklo
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jel to obicna fug masa za plocice ? Jel samo s njom po toj stijeni namazete ocel sta odaziti u aq
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picita možeš...probat (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley17.gif&hash=a48081acd7c9ede2e5e65de02c2fa6b11d920ea9) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley17.gif&hash=a48081acd7c9ede2e5e65de02c2fa6b11d920ea9) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley17.gif&hash=a48081acd7c9ede2e5e65de02c2fa6b11d920ea9)
ma mislin da bi ti treba taj držat
nisan fugirao zadnju stranu
ne znan šta ću još s njom sve čekam da se javi neko
s iskustvom da da neki savjet, i mene zanima oće li se to otapat u vodi.
E još nešto. Kad budete mazali fugamol radite to nekim pinelom malin starin nikako prstima jer znam iz prve ruke kad san prije par godina fugira pločice u wc-u pa san ravna fuge prstom, izgorili mi prsti da nisan ni osjetija i stvorile se male rane koje bole ko vrag i nikako ne zarastaju. To je zato šta se fugamol ne otapa skroz u vodi, ka recimo brašno, nego ostaju mali "kristalići" i reeeeeeežuuuuuuuuu stariiii
ideeeeeš (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2)
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Ovo ti je jako,jako,jako dobar savjet
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stijena mi izgleda super.
jedino mi nije jasno kako ces ucvrstiti one odvojenekomadice da ne isplivaju van...
sto se rupa i reljefa tice, normalno je da fugamol zatvori male pukotine, zato treba raditi veeelike pukotine...(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2)... zadnju svoju stijenu nisam obradjivao lemilicom i sada mi je malo zao, jer stijena izgleda preglatko...lemilicom mozes dobiti lijepe i realne pukotine, koje upaljacem i fenom ne mozes tako precizno izvuci...
ovo tvoje mi je poprilicno realno, jer je reljef poprilicno grub, sto je ok. Jos da si stavio koju fotku izbliza nakon paljenja, jer ovak izdaleka bas ne vidim kakva je nakon paljenja...
poz!
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stijena lijepo izgleda(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley32.gif&hash=a737273b3f7ae906ec6c28ccb4d3e8c312700d78)
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ma oni komadići su onaj bočni dio al kad san dubio
mjesto za grijač i pumpu puno san stanjija pa san odlomia.
zalipit ću ih silikonom za staklo
ma i kida san i palia i lemilicon radia brazde
i najviše mi je fugamol prekrija te brazde
a i nisan puno palija da mi ne zaobli puno stijenu
Hvala skin
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samo navalite sa komentarima
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stijena mi izgleda super.
jedino mi nije jasno kako ces ucvrstiti one odvojene komadice da ne isplivaju van...
sto se rupa i reljefa tice, normalno je da fugamol zatvori male pukotine, zato treba raditi veeelike pukotine...(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2)... zadnju svoju stijenu nisam obradjivao lemilicom i sada mi je malo zao, jer stijena izgleda preglatko...lemilicom mozes dobiti lijepe i realne pukotine, koje upaljacem i fenom ne mozes tako precizno izvuci...
ovo tvoje mi je poprilicno realno, jer je reljef poprilicno grub, sto je ok. Jos da si stavio koju fotku izbliza nakon paljenja, jer ovak izdaleka bas ne vidim kakva je nakon paljenja...
poz!
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daj vise jedan close-up! (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
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Našao sam u Getrou silikon od Henkela-Ceresit silikon,staklarski.Ima actonsku osnovu.Piše da je moguća izrada akvarija do 300L.
Da li je štetan za ribe,tj. da li bi s njim mogao ljepiti pozadinu?
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Slobodno ga mozes koristiti...(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2)
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Hvala mama(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6)
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Nema na cemu!(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley36.gif&hash=92bdad6676fe4ff2c4f1ffef07ff34a3d396cda3)
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Na staklo sam sam razmazao silikon i po njemu poljepio komadiće kamena.
Sad bih to postavio u akvarij na stražnju stranu.Ne bih ljepio,jer ako mi se ne svidi da mogu ukloniti (biće pričvrćena)Da li je preteško za akvarij?
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dobro izgleda i zanimljiva ideja!
jesi li testira kamenje octom ?
kako misliš teško za akv? mislin da za akvarij nema straha jedino ako ti je postolje klimavo (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
Kassad ma brzo će nastavak kanta od fotića nešto zaj.... (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley36.gif&hash=92bdad6676fe4ff2c4f1ffef07ff34a3d396cda3)
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po meni si triba ofurit vatrom zbog prelaza
super
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heeeeej nemo
pozdrav
ma jesan počea al je puno dimilo
zvali bi susidi vatrogasce (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6)
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mislia sam cisto da ubijes kantune po meni lipse ispadne(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
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ma je slažen se
nego evo dalje slika. close-up !!
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jel dosta? (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
evo još
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mora san je pripilat popola da je mogu ubacit radi ojačanja na vrhu akvarija
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evo na tusiranju. puno potamni. valjda će takva boja bit i u akvariju pod vodomuploads/dodge/EE8E_tusir25.jpg">
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evo još par slika mog starog akvarija dragA me satrala da ih
stavin (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley7.gif&hash=c3316d02360311e4e0327eaa65741776d6bbf791) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley7.gif&hash=c3316d02360311e4e0327eaa65741776d6bbf791)
kaže da će se nininoj mami svidit, čeka komentar (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6)
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sve super sve 5 ali ovaj zeleno plavi sljunak ti nije trebao(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2)
izvadi ga i stavi neki prirodnije boje....
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A ne trebaju ti ni te školjke ni brod,a i ribe si sve nekak smikso i probaj si nabaviti pravo bilje od ovog plastičnog nemaš nikakve koristi(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2)
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Pozadina izgleda super. (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley32.gif&hash=a737273b3f7ae906ec6c28ccb4d3e8c312700d78)
Jedva cekam da ju vidim potopljenu! (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
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A ne trebaju ti ni te školjke ni brod,
istina da, pogodio me u oko zeleni sljunak pa ostalu "dekoraciju" nisam ni primjetio...
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Hvala hvala hvala (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley9.gif&hash=af1d49ba058db573321027d0d36c4b7d39251301)
Što reći....početničke greške
i neobrazovano osoblje Zoo shopa (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley7.gif&hash=c3316d02360311e4e0327eaa65741776d6bbf791) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley7.gif&hash=c3316d02360311e4e0327eaa65741776d6bbf791) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley7.gif&hash=c3316d02360311e4e0327eaa65741776d6bbf791)
ali polako se to ispravlja. zahvaljujući vama, dobri ljudi (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6)
moje ribice su vam zahvalne (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6)
ubrzo će se trljat uz ovu stijenu (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
....a i loše san slike stavija, macro to i može proć za početnika
puno je tu truda bilo...eeeee......... (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
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dobro izgleda i zanimljiva ideja!
jesi li testira kamenje octom ?
kako misliš teško za akv? mislin da za akvarij nema straha jedino ako ti je postolje klimavo (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
Kamenje sam testirao vinskim octom(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley17.gif&hash=a48081acd7c9ede2e5e65de02c2fa6b11d920ea9)
To je kamen sa Hvara,izgleda kao kristal,ne pripada ni jednom biotopu,ali izgleda ok.
Za sada sam odustao od postavljanja jer mi je ovo prvi akvarij,pa ćemo viditi nakon 4-6 mj.
Što se tiče težine-čuj staklo+kamen=2-3 kg na jednoj točci???
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ma da skužia san te al opet kažem,
kakvo ti je postolje?
mislim da ne bi triba imat problema sa akvarijem jer to neće na staklo bit nikakvo opterećenje nego će postolje osjetit težinu.
možeš to bez straha tako ubacit.......
a ko je lipija akvarij? (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
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Pozadina nije loša jedino za tako mali akvarij staviti toliko pozadinu i nije baš mudro a i lijepiti silikonom za staklo je super ideja- ali kad ti dosadi mošeš baciti i akvarij.
Fugamol je cement a on je lužnat a osim toga ima i drugih kemikalija u njema pa je uputno prićekat koji tijedan prije neko staviš ribe u akvarij da se ne potruju.
Meni je osobno lijepo kada pozadina nije od ruba do ruba a lijepo je i kd malo ulazi i u prostor kao na primjer(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/uploads/dare/7974_DSC00471a.JPG)
Tako i mali akvarij izgleda zanimljivije a plitki daleko dublji i složeniji. Ovo je akvač od 110x50x35.
Nadam se da če vam biti na inspiraciju.
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Pozadina nije loša jedino za tako mali akvarij staviti toliko pozadinu i nije baš mudro a i lijepiti silikonom za staklo je super ideja- ali kad ti dosadi mošeš baciti i akvarij.
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Pozadinu sam zaljepio za posebno staklo,pa sam mislio to staklo postaviti na zadnje staklo akvarija.Nisam ga mislio ljepiti za akvarijsko staklo,ali ako ga ne zaljepim barem po rubovima bojim se ne čistoće između 2 stakla(iako se stvori vakum između stakala).
Tako da sam za sada odustao dok ne steknem malo više iskustva u akvaristici,ipak mi je ovo 1 akvarij.
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Dare odlično, svidja mi se.
Nadam se da će i moja tako nekako prirodno izgledat pod vodom.
Čime si je radija i premaza, daj koju riječ (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6)
Šta se tiče od-do kraja promislija san i ja o tome, još se mislin oču li je skračivat, ali triban vidit kako će to sve izgledat pod vodom, još je nida stiga potopit (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley11.gif&hash=7d5c9bca1bcbf3a6e9a4c13228ac5f6f8e18103f) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley11.gif&hash=7d5c9bca1bcbf3a6e9a4c13228ac5f6f8e18103f) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley18.gif&hash=5ab09d708b592e172481a1807a821842f1e3d0bf) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley7.gif&hash=c3316d02360311e4e0327eaa65741776d6bbf791) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley19.gif&hash=d5e6fe4d2fde9a834a8df62995ee04546616604b) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley18.gif&hash=5ab09d708b592e172481a1807a821842f1e3d0bf) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley7.gif&hash=c3316d02360311e4e0327eaa65741776d6bbf791) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley11.gif&hash=7d5c9bca1bcbf3a6e9a4c13228ac5f6f8e18103f)
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Evo da uploadan, stijen azaljepljena silikonom za staklo,
potopljena, akvarij cikliran, voda pročišćena, ribice
plivaju leđno, prsno, butterfly, a je.... meni osmjeh ne silazi s lica !!!
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(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads%2Fdodge%2F2F2C_00005.jpg&hash=132173cc10ec2a7805f8e212e0302f1bae744007)
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Još triba sakrit filter i grijač. Onaj trći dio misam ubacio jer bi puno smanjila prostor pa ću smislit nešto drugo, ali zasad može stat i ovako,
Ja san zadovoljan !!
Šta vi mislite?
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Misteryyyyy! (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley32.gif&hash=a737273b3f7ae906ec6c28ccb4d3e8c312700d78)
Fakat izgleda tamno... (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley20.gif&hash=7bc8ba07a078179cdef42ace0ecfa0728ed8b90d)
Meni se svidja mnogo vise nego na suhom...
A plechici (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley27.gif&hash=160833124939211b8a9ae927aa762a992ab57ea3) ... Skalari... (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley27.gif&hash=160833124939211b8a9ae927aa762a992ab57ea3)
Da ne bude da previse hvalim: za ovu postavu riba, fali biiiiiiljeeee... (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley36.gif&hash=92bdad6676fe4ff2c4f1ffef07ff34a3d396cda3)
Imas li kakvu sansu sakriti svjetlo? Mislim da ne probija naprijed...
Sakrivanje tehnikalija bi moglo biti problematicno. Mislim da je to moglo
elegantnije u sklopu stijene, no sad cemo vidjeti junake... (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley36.gif&hash=92bdad6676fe4ff2c4f1ffef07ff34a3d396cda3)
Nadam se da ovaj svjetliji plecho nije zapravo gibi... (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley5.gif&hash=d3d599462950977b3522c5964757f8179a200ff3)
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Dodge stvarno izgleda lijepo,reci jesi li pozadinu tretita hipermagnatom ili si je samo opra u vodi pa onda lijepia ili...
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Čisto fino izgleda! (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley32.gif&hash=a737273b3f7ae906ec6c28ccb4d3e8c312700d78)
Ono kaj ti fali su neki ozbiljniji ciklidi...
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Vizualno reljef izgleda dosta realistično (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley20.gif&hash=7bc8ba07a078179cdef42ace0ecfa0728ed8b90d), no ukupni dojam u akvariju je malčice premračan.(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley6.gif&hash=8cd9c3244ed1597c04e3972b48e8a44389b1bdd3)
Meni se više dopada onaj koncept kojeg je Dare predložio(https://www.akvarij.net/forum//smileys/smiley2.gif).
Nego, Dare daj na PP neki info od kud si iščupo ovu fotku.
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e, ovo genialno izgleda! meni se bas svidja takav taman! (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley32.gif&hash=a737273b3f7ae906ec6c28ccb4d3e8c312700d78)
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Nego, Dare daj na PP neki info od kud si iščupo ovu fotku.
to je dare-tov AQ (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2)
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Ninina mama: Hvala, hvala (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley9.gif&hash=af1d49ba058db573321027d0d36c4b7d39251301) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley9.gif&hash=af1d49ba058db573321027d0d36c4b7d39251301) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley9.gif&hash=af1d49ba058db573321027d0d36c4b7d39251301)
Ma bilje će doći brzo, treba ga smo....kupit (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6)
Ako ko ima šta za poklonit, dobrodošao je (split) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
Stijena uživo i nije tako tamna nego ova škovaca od fotića ne može bolje uvatit bez blica, a sa blicom, ajmemajko. A svjetlo nemogu sakrit jer nije pravi poklopac nego sam improvizira stalak od tv-a poviše (ah ti prostrani stanovi,rgrmghr (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley7.gif&hash=c3316d02360311e4e0327eaa65741776d6bbf791) ) ,pa su mi 3 strane otvorene.
Tehnikalije su trebale bit sakrivene u drugom dijelu stijene koji nisam ubacija(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads%2Fdodge%2F1B9C_cut.jpg&hash=dfe22ca0de3af2de60ffc96a3bcb01f2ac83d432)
ma nešto ću smislit (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
ja i ovako prezadovoljan (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
a jeli plehi gibi....stvarno pojma nemam. Isto izgledaju samo je ovi mali na uzorak leoparda (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley9.gif&hash=af1d49ba058db573321027d0d36c4b7d39251301)
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hvala picita
samo san je vodon opra i ostavija 2 dana da seciklira i prominija pola vode nalija novu, aquasafe, filter, ostavija tako još 3 dana i ubacija ekipu i ....vidija si!! (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6)
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Čisto fino izgleda! (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley32.gif&hash=a737273b3f7ae906ec6c28ccb4d3e8c312700d78)
Ono kaj ti fali su neki ozbiljniji ciklidi...
(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6) paaa....sve vodi ka tome (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6)
al ima vremena (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley36.gif&hash=92bdad6676fe4ff2c4f1ffef07ff34a3d396cda3) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley36.gif&hash=92bdad6676fe4ff2c4f1ffef07ff34a3d396cda3)
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Vizualno reljef izgleda dosta realistično (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley20.gif&hash=7bc8ba07a078179cdef42ace0ecfa0728ed8b90d), no ukupni dojam u akvariju je malčice premračan.(https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley6.gif&hash=8cd9c3244ed1597c04e3972b48e8a44389b1bdd3)
fotić je kanta, puno je svjetlije uživo, a i nisan ni ja neki vrsni fotograf, abat thnx enivej (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
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A zasto nisi ubacio i taj dodatni dio stijene? (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley5.gif&hash=d3d599462950977b3522c5964757f8179a200ff3)
A cuj kakva valisnerija, sigurno odradi posao... (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley2.gif&hash=37d2b1f68093b901c215e5a29629cbe8accc72d2)
A za svjetlo sam mislila mozda da nalijepis obicnu crnu izolir traku na vrh. Cisto da se ne vidi nivo vode... (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d)
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ma nisam još, nešto kombiniram, iman panj od loze
pa gledam šta bi bilo bolje, a i par kamenja san mislia ubacit samo neznam di bi ih moga nabavit, pa ako ko zna, po splitu di ima ovako slično nešto kamenčića (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley5.gif&hash=d3d599462950977b3522c5964757f8179a200ff3) ?
VAlisnerija sigurno ide (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley4.gif&hash=3e0e10b9e2e547fe0023255abd9b99e79545826d) , a poklopac je još nedefiniran, al čim uvatim malo tajma doradit ću ga
Hvala na komentarima (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6) (https://www.akvarij.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley1.gif&hash=f380b81c0bb8a4bce3742d3b6ea922ea0f938be6)